Following my first 12 months with British Rail Engineering Ltd at Crewe Works in the training school I embarked on a further 2 years in the main Works from August 1975. If my memory serves me right, the Works employed around 5,000 people at that time. I would like to share some of my Crewe Works memories with you.

One example of the many fine Locomotives built at Crewe Works outside the front of the Erecting Shop. British Railways Class 7 – 70000 Britannia just prior to being repainted in the Works some years ago.
Crewe Welding and Plate Shop
The works were still building locomotives. At the time, the first of the High Speed Train power cars were being built in the Erecting Shop or 10 shop as it referred to. The Welding and Plate Shop was my first workshop assignment. It was adjacent to the Fabrication Shop and was under the control of the Superintendent, Dennis Dooley. Mr Dooley was renowned for being a strict disciplinarian. Apprentices had to wear green overalls and were very visible amongst the general workforce. If Mr Dooley spotted a ‘green overall’ that he didn’t recognise, he would challenge you and ask what your business was in his workshop! He would administer a severe verbal ‘ticking-off’ warning you to stay out in future unless you had authority to be there.
An impact on my railway career
In the Welding and Plate Shop, I was assigned to Frank Jones. One of the jobs I remember Frank doing was welding up damaged sections of traction motor carcasses. These castings were very heavy and had to be lowered onto the workbench using an overhead crane. One day I was assisting Frank manoeuver a carcass into position when the crane driver inadvertently lowered the carcass too quickly trapping one of Frank’s hands underneath. I immediately signaled to the crane driver to raise the carcass up. With his hand released, I clearly remember Frank calmly saying ‘Stupid Bugger!’ as he removed his welding gauntlet. His fingers were badly crushed and there was a significant amount of blood. I accompanied him to the medical centre.
Frank had worked at Crewe Works since before World War II. He told me that his chargehand and him were the last two people left who had worked on Tank Assembly at the Works during the war in the very workshop we were in. At that time, workshop conditions were thoroughly unpleasant. The atmosphere was full of welding fumes which were trapped in the building by the blackout precautions. His chargehand was three weeks younger than Frank and both were just a couple of months away from retirement aged 65 in the Winter of 1975/6. He was looking forward to this period of his life and wanted to enjoy his passion for fishing. Due to his injury, Frank was off work and I was transferred to another area of the workshop. I didn’t work with Frank again and indeed I never saw him again.
Some weeks later I was walking through Crewe town centre when I bumped into his chargehand. I asked after Frank specifically if he had made any prize fishing catches. His chargehand said that very sadly Frank had died just three weeks after retirement. I was stunned. This lovely man had worked all his life and had no time to enjoy his retirement. Although only 17 at the time, I made the decision that there was no way I would work full-time until I was 65. My father taught me I should save and that I should live within my means. Over the years since Frank’s death, I have made provision for early retirement. This lovely man unwittingly had a major impact on my career decision.

A typical workshop scene at Crewe Works taken a few years ago during one of the open days. Can you identify the workshop?
Crewe Works Fabrication Shop
My next move was into the Fabrication Shop. Here I was accompanied by Training School friends. This included Steve Dodd also known as ‘Doddy’. Doddy in my view was one cool dude because he played in a rock band. A fellow member was Mike Atchison who had been at college with me. Mike was training to be an electrical engineer as well but within the Signal and Telegraph Department of British Rail at Gresty Road near Crewe station.
One day at college, Mike produced a portable cassette machine and said to me ‘Listen to this’ recording. The room was then full of the sound of rock music and it sounded incredible! As the music died away I said ‘Who was that?’ Mike said ‘It’s us’. I said I’d never heard of a group called ‘Us’. Mike laughed and said ‘No it’s us – me, Doddy and the lads’. I was very impressed! Mike recently made contact with me again after nearly 30 years. I remember on one occasion on the Fab. Shop Doddy being perched on the top of a large fuel tank from a Class 47, welding in new sections to replace rotted areas. Doddy was one of a number of my friends in the Works who nicknamed me ‘Cockney Rebel’ because I was a Southerner and it didn’t matter I was from Hertfordshire not London.

Class 40 D200 outside the Erecting Shop (10 Shop) at Crewe Works.
Welding School at Crewe Works
There was new build taking place within the fabrication shop with the webbing for the sides of the new High Speed Train power cars being held in jigs so they could be welded. To improve their welding skills apprentices spent time in the Welding School. This was located at the far end of the works opposite the General Stores, formerly the paint shop during the days of steam. Our tutor there was Roy.
One of the exercises was to weld two test pieces of steel plate, the edge of which had been prepared with a forty-five degree chamfer. The aim was to achieve a homogenous weld. The way to see how successful this had been was to take the welded plates and secure them in a vice with the weld level with the top of the jaws. The next bit was great therapy to release any anger or pent-up emotion. You picked up a large sledgehammer, aimed carefully and swung, clouting the top plate and splitting the weld clean down the middle. Roy would inspect the weld to see whether there were any blow holes or slag inclusions. Over a two-week period Roy taught myself and others to electric arc weld, braise and gas weld – a skill I’ve used many times since in my life. Although I’m a bit rusty now!
I would dearly love to know if anybody reading this knows Roy surname and can post it in the comments below please.
Traction Shop
All too soon my period in the Fabrication Shop was up and I moved to the Traction Shop. Superintendent Towers was in charge and he had a reputation of being very strict too. This workshop used to be an erecting shop and was where the Class 52 Western diesel hydraulic locomotives were constructed in the 1960s.

A selection of Locomotives in the yard outside the Traction Shop which is the white roofed building behind Class 50 50015 Valiant
Change of use to the overhaul of electrical machines resulted in the pits between the railway lines in the Workshop being filled in. A rumor that has prevailed for many years was that name and number plates from steam locomotive scrapped in the works we used as hard core in the pits before being covered by cement.
During my time in the Traction Shop I was put with a guy who overhauled tap changes on the 25kv transformers from Class 86 and 87 electric locomotives. This was the first time I encountered a feeling of resistance against imparting information. The guy I was to work alongside said to me ‘You’re one of those Engineering Apprentices that don’t like to get their hands dirty’. As I was training to become a professional engineer I was expected to learn by watching and not to get directly involved. However, my view was that you can’t just learn by standing back and watching others. Plus I like to help people wherever I can. You have to get stuck in and get your hands dirty. I insisted that I wasn’t like some of my predecessors. I welcomed the chance to assist him and learn how to use the tools. His attitude changed completely and we got along famously ever after.
Crewe Works Memories
At ‘Brew Time’ I would sit with the guys and enjoy the banter even when it was directed at me as ‘one of them who don’t get their hands dirty‘.
One day I was approached by an electrician who had a football card game. There were squares on the card each containing the name of a football club. You selected the club, initialed the box and paid over 5p. When all the squares were sold, a covered up square at the top of the card covered by blue tape was revealed to show the winning club. The guy said to me did I want the last square? I protested that I only had 4½p so would have to decline his kind offer. ‘Don’t worry’, he said laughing, ‘You can pay it from the winnings’ so I handed over my 4½p. He walked off only to start swearing. Turning round he said. ‘You’ve only gone and bloody won’. He handed me the winnings where upon I gave him back ½p!

Around 80 tons of Locomotive being lifted by a pair of cranes in the Erecting Shop. The area of the workshop below the locomotive was full of HST 125 Power Cars being constructed during my time there in the mid-1970s.
The Traction Shop overhauled traction motors, generators and auxiliary electrical machines. Seeing these stripped down and helping with their reconstruction supplemented my college learning of how these machines operated.
The workshop always smelt of the varnish that was used to insulate armatures and coils from the machines. These parts once rewound and the electrical coils were then dipped in enclosed vats of insulation varnish that had been warmed. Air was evacuated and the resulting vacuum sucked the vanish into the windings ensuring they were fully insulated. Once dry, the components were re-installed into the machine carcasses and tested.
My Traction Shop training lasted about two months before I moved on to the Metallurgy Lab and Steel Foundry which I will cover this in Memories of Crewe Works (Part 2).

Crewe Works built Class 47 D1661 named ‘North Star’ now preserved on the West Somerset Railway. Picture courtesy of great friend and former Great Western Railway colleague Richard Tapscott
I am very proud to have served my time in Crewe Works and enjoy remembering the Works and the magnificent locomotives built there.
Read more about my railway career here
Find out how I managed to increase my income by working on the P-Way at weekends
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They told us if we learned half what we were taught we would be good , they weren’t far wrong , loved it learned loads I’ve never had a problem turning my hand to anything since
Agree wholeheartedly with you Nigel.
Hi Barry, Roy”s name was Vickers. He was a Semi Pro Cricketer, well known through out Cheshire and the Potteries. He sadly passed away passed away a few years ago. Another great character and gentlemen.
Hi Dave, It’s amazing how these names come back. Indeed a great guy who I really respected. Didn’t know he was a pro Cricketer. Thanks very much Dave. Any chance you might remember the gentleman who I worked with on the tap changers. He was about the only guy who worked on this complex bit of kit.
Hi Dave, I found the announcement of Roy’s death in 2009 at the age of 77 after a long illness. Very sad indeed for such a wonderful man.
I think the memories of Crewe Works is a great idea as the place will soon be defunct & housing built on the land ! I rember Dennis Dooley to who I believe also passed away soon after retirement!
Peter Towers of the Traction Shop I also remember well .
Hi Steve, thank you. I enjoy sharing my memories but I equally enjoy the responses from people like yourself who worked there. Where were you employed there?
Yoy”re memories bring back memories for us that worked in Crewe Works at the time you did. They were very good memories. Pete Towers past away some years ago. When we met him in the town he would joke and laugh about some of the characters who he came across when he was head forman. Came across as a very nice bloke that was just doing his job. RIP.
Thank you Dave. I’m so glad it brings back good memories. It does make the effort to write the Blog more rewarding. I still have more to write. Best wishes.
I was employed in the Mill Shop as a Fitter/Millwright,the Maintenance shop was moved in the 80’s to what was the Steam Generator Shop! They were happy days & never can be repeated now!
Steve M
I was employed in the Millwrights Dept when I came out of my time. I worked there until late 1991. Steve M
Very nice article!
Thank you very much Tudosa for your kind comment.
Hi
You probably know by now, but the open day workshop was the wheelshop. The part machined axles waiting for finish Machining, before assembly.
Hi I was one of the 60 or so horwich lads who got transferred to crewe in 1983 although we travelled daily. Didn’t take long to settle in but a few crewys were a bit suspicious of us. I stayed till march 1988 and took my redundancy. I was a painter who finished up in the 10 shop. I was very friendly with guy that I worked with, Bromley Clowes of Westminster street Crewe, got me into fishing all the local areas I even ended up getting a pioneers permit so I could fish Hawk lake in Shropshire. I had just over 4 years at Crewe works but made some great mates even including the Stokies! Im still in touch with Brom xmas cards etc. Some funny characters there at the works and the xmas concert in the 10 shop was legendary. Anybody remember Marshall Cooper doing his rendition of GREEN DOOR. INCREDIBLE. Hard times travelling but when I look back it built character. But alas no more railway workshops. RIP
Was in the training school.from Jan1960,came out fitter/turner.First shop Brass finishing.Some great blokes,working on steam ejectors and other components for steam loco,s.Then machine shop,tender shop10 shop.Changed over to electrical fitter at 21.Worked in New shop,Diesel test,and finally on diesel repair in 10 shop.Took redundancy in 1987.Went on to work in social Services (mental health)NVQ in mental health care(loved this job) Later worked with people with dementia.
hello my name is mick patrick i was a welder in the fab shop along side steve dodd(doddy), from 1978/1988,he was great with welding rods drumming great memories i also played cricket with roy he started umpiring was very sad when he passed, i loved it in there and am trying to get my apprentice group photo 1977.
hi mick doddy here remember the thursday night curries i remember you always had meat madras me chicken vindaloo then we stepped up one notch each toilet disaster that weekend
My memories of Crewe Works are learning how to do the Rubix Cube , the 3-3 correct score football bet and many Nap of the Day horse racing competitions